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the romney thesis is that the economy was getting worse. it was obama's fault, and romney was mr. fix-it. and in each of those tenets it seemed to me they have gone out the window. i think obama will start asking where is the beef. the numbers are very clear about the economic turnaround since he's been president. he has an economic jobs recovery act now which by everybody's reckoning would create somewhere between 1 million and 2 million jobs. on the other hand, you have romney who has no economic plan whatsoever other than to say i want to cut taxes below the 15% ofg dp that they are right now, and then the other night he says, well, i don't want to actually cut the actual tax rate, i want to cut rates and then i want to increase deductions and give us effectively the same amount of taxes coming into the economy which leaves him with an unutterly incoherent record. with romney you have nothing and i think the message you will start hearing next week is going back to that old mondale commercial, where is the beef, show us the beef, because there ain't none there. >> john, before
the romney thesis is that the economy was getting worse. it was obama's fault, and romney was mr. fix-it. and in each of those tenets it seemed to me they have gone out the window. i think obama will start asking where is the beef. the numbers are very clear about the economic turnaround since he's been president. he has an economic jobs recovery act now which by everybody's reckoning would create somewhere between 1 million and 2 million jobs. on the other hand, you have romney who has no...
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for mr. romney, that was then. now on that, a number of issues, he seems to be trying to downplay what he once described as his severely conservative record and recast himself as more centrist on some issues. the shift began a moment after this handshake in denver. he was insistent on government regulation, education and health care. >> how would repeal it? >> it's a lengthy discussion, but number one, preexisting conditions are covered under my plan. >> that assurance is misleading, and later on an adviser had to clarify what mr. romney actually meant. under mr. romney's plan, he said, preexisting conditions would only be covered for people who already have insurance to begin with, but are changing jobs and, therefore, health insurance plans. that's not what most people think of when it comes to preexisting conditions. ironically, the health care law that mitt romney signed in massachusetts and remains in place, it does allow for preexisting conditions whether they have health cainsurance or not. we will be watchi
for mr. romney, that was then. now on that, a number of issues, he seems to be trying to downplay what he once described as his severely conservative record and recast himself as more centrist on some issues. the shift began a moment after this handshake in denver. he was insistent on government regulation, education and health care. >> how would repeal it? >> it's a lengthy discussion, but number one, preexisting conditions are covered under my plan. >> that assurance is...
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what mr. romney had said. >> i'm sorry, jim. i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs and other things and i like pbs, i like big bird i actually like you to, but not borrowing money to pay china for supporting it. >> and the big broadcasting systems. what's the truth? could big bird be going bye-bye? joining us, from the christian monitor, good morning. >> good morning. >> so are big bird and pbs really in any danger here? >> well, i don't think big bird's had a week this good in a while. he's huge on twitter now. i think his twitter presence increased like 800,000%, and the thing about big bird and "sesame street" is they have so much outside funding. it's not like "sesame street" will disappear. pbs, the subsidy, it's a sizable chunk of their budget and would be a big blow. >>? how much? a perspective? how much the government chips in? >> it fluctuates year to year. 10% to 15%. in 2011, 12% funneled stlu came from the government subsidy. >> definite lay sizable clunk there. pbs has released a statement accusing governor romney of
what mr. romney had said. >> i'm sorry, jim. i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs and other things and i like pbs, i like big bird i actually like you to, but not borrowing money to pay china for supporting it. >> and the big broadcasting systems. what's the truth? could big bird be going bye-bye? joining us, from the christian monitor, good morning. >> good morning. >> so are big bird and pbs really in any danger here? >> well, i don't think big bird's had a week...
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for mr. romney, that was then. now on that and a number of issues, he seems to be trying to downplay what he once described as his severely conservative record and recast himself as more centrist on some issues. the shift, you might have noticed, began moments after this handshake at the debate in denver. mr. romney struck centrist sounding positions on government regulation, education and most notably, health care. >> if obama care is repealed, how would you replace it? >> actually, it's a lengthy description but number one, pre-existing conditions are covered under my plan. >> pre-existing conditions are covered under my plan. keeping them honest, that assurance is misleading and a short time later, a top campaign adviser had to clarify what his boss actually meant. under mr. romney's plan, he said, pre-existing conditions would only be covered for people who already have insurance to begin with, but are changing jobs and therefore, health insurance plans. that's not who most people think of when it comes to pre-
for mr. romney, that was then. now on that and a number of issues, he seems to be trying to downplay what he once described as his severely conservative record and recast himself as more centrist on some issues. the shift, you might have noticed, began moments after this handshake at the debate in denver. mr. romney struck centrist sounding positions on government regulation, education and most notably, health care. >> if obama care is repealed, how would you replace it? >>...
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the explanation from the romney campaign is mr. romney was not pulling notes out of his pocket. he was pulling out of his pocket a handkerchief. sure enough, a little later on, oop, in the debate mr. romney is seen wiping his nose with said handkerchief. so whether you are persuaded by mitt romney wiping his nose on what is supposed to be his crib sheet notes, if you're on the left, again, like this is a conspiracy theory that just does not help. president obama did not win the first debate against mitt romney. whether or not you're happy about that he didn't win. but if your takeaway from this conspiracy theory in this debate is the reason the president didn't win is because mitt romney cheated, then what is the utility of that theory for you? what is the utility of that information? how do you think president obama should then prepare for the second debate? should he just do exactly what he did this past wednesday night, except keep a closer eye out for the cheating because that is the only reason he lost? i mean, it may be comforting to tell yourself this is what really went
the explanation from the romney campaign is mr. romney was not pulling notes out of his pocket. he was pulling out of his pocket a handkerchief. sure enough, a little later on, oop, in the debate mr. romney is seen wiping his nose with said handkerchief. so whether you are persuaded by mitt romney wiping his nose on what is supposed to be his crib sheet notes, if you're on the left, again, like this is a conspiracy theory that just does not help. president obama did not win the first debate...
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>>> and this is what it looks like for mr. romney. big bird is crashing the party and president obama continues to call the romney team out. >> now, my opponent, he's doing a lot of little -- a little tap dance at the debate the other night, trying to writiiggle out stuff he's been saying for a year. it was like dancing with the stars. >> all that plus, breaking news out of ohio tonight. a win for democracy. stay with us. you're watching "politicsnation" on msnbc. >> before the debate last night, there was a coin toss to see which candidate would speak first. it was an awkward moment when romney asked, what's that shiny little disk you're holding? ♪ [ male announcer ] introducing the all-new completely re-imagined 2013 chevrolet malibu. sleek new styling... sophisticated dual cockpit design, and sport sculpted seats. available chevrolet mylink infotainment system. the all-new 2013 chevrolet malibu. ♪ refined comfort to get you in a malibu state of mind no matter what state you live in. ♪ >>> are you part of the "politicsnation"
>>> and this is what it looks like for mr. romney. big bird is crashing the party and president obama continues to call the romney team out. >> now, my opponent, he's doing a lot of little -- a little tap dance at the debate the other night, trying to writiiggle out stuff he's been saying for a year. it was like dancing with the stars. >> all that plus, breaking news out of ohio tonight. a win for democracy. stay with us. you're watching "politicsnation" on msnbc....
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mrs. romney is also a breast cancer survivor and has multiple sclerosis. romney expressed her support for robin's recovery for a tweet in august, tweeted keep on fighting, we all stand with you. which is certainly true. the show of support came after the two had first met back in july, carol. romney sat in for an interview with roberts. there is a bit of history between the morning show and the romney family, it will be interesting to see how she does as a "gma" co-host, for sure. >> i'm sure she'll do a terrific job. join a.j. on "showbiz tonightto 11:00 on hln. jack, you're a little boring. boring. boring. [ jack ] after lauren broke up with me, i went to the citi private pass page and decided to be...not boring. that's how i met marilyn... giada... really good. yes! [ jack ] ...and alicia. ♪ this girl is on fire [ male announcer ] use any citi card to get the benefits of private pass. more concerts, more events, more experiences. [ jack ] hey, who's boring now? [ male announcer ] get more access with the citi card. [ crowd cheering, mouse clicks ] ♪
mrs. romney is also a breast cancer survivor and has multiple sclerosis. romney expressed her support for robin's recovery for a tweet in august, tweeted keep on fighting, we all stand with you. which is certainly true. the show of support came after the two had first met back in july, carol. romney sat in for an interview with roberts. there is a bit of history between the morning show and the romney family, it will be interesting to see how she does as a "gma" co-host, for sure....
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mr. romney says his plans will produce 12 million new jobs. his math is fuzzy at best, i have one way he could get part of the way to the goal. pass the dream act on day one. a new study shows that legalizing the 2.1 million undocumented immigrants who have been in the united states since they were children would generate 1.4 million jobs and add a whopping $329 billion to the economy by 2030. raul, i love this report by the center for american progress on the dreamers because it is the definitive point that is consumers who are job creators, not the 1% that are the job creators. if these folks become legalized citizens, they can go to college. they will spend more money. that creates jobs. >> these are people who are here. if the dream act passes, everyone benefits. they are contributing more. what gets lost, i think, so much in the immigration debate, this whole idea which is so basic in economics is that, you know, economics is not a zero sum game. if one person gets a job, they're not taking it from someone else. if we bring in all these p
mr. romney says his plans will produce 12 million new jobs. his math is fuzzy at best, i have one way he could get part of the way to the goal. pass the dream act on day one. a new study shows that legalizing the 2.1 million undocumented immigrants who have been in the united states since they were children would generate 1.4 million jobs and add a whopping $329 billion to the economy by 2030. raul, i love this report by the center for american progress on the dreamers because it is the...
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i think mitt romney should focus on saying things like, mr. president, we are, you seem to have a problem with profits, which my company made. but most americans have a problem with deficits, which you've rung up four consecutive trillion dollar deficits. they both have a ltle problem with details. but there is a big, i would strike a big contrast if i was mitt romney. i would put a working state on one side and a welfare state on the other side and i would say america would be much, much better if dollars were earned instead of dollars awarded. it is time to stop rewarding our friends and punishing our enemies and having the government treat every american the same, which is a foundational principal of the rule of law. and i think mitt romney has to do more of that. has he been specific with his plan? he laid five out in the debate, which is more than the president did. that's why independents thought mitt romney did very, very well. >> let me ask you about one of the issues where they differ, medicare. that is a big deal in florida romney sa
i think mitt romney should focus on saying things like, mr. president, we are, you seem to have a problem with profits, which my company made. but most americans have a problem with deficits, which you've rung up four consecutive trillion dollar deficits. they both have a ltle problem with details. but there is a big, i would strike a big contrast if i was mitt romney. i would put a working state on one side and a welfare state on the other side and i would say america would be much, much...
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mr. woodhouse called romney a liar, and if we can roll a video of the obama campaign, insinuating that mitt romney was lying. was this anything you heard mitt romney lie about? >> he had the facts on his side and he came armed with them. again, anyone watching that debate would say, well, if he was lying why didn't the president point out what he was saying that was inaccurate? he didn't do it. mitt romney, again, has been very clear where he stands. this just shows this is a campaign that is grasping at straws and struggling because they know their candidate was embarrassed in front of the country. >> there are those, we have speculated every campaign does opposition republican, they try and time the release of videotape that has commitment saying 47 percent, blah, blah, blah. do they have another one these in their pockets? should we expect something? >> chicago politics? i would not be surprised if they release something. my advice when i work for candidates is, hire a private investig
mr. woodhouse called romney a liar, and if we can roll a video of the obama campaign, insinuating that mitt romney was lying. was this anything you heard mitt romney lie about? >> he had the facts on his side and he came armed with them. again, anyone watching that debate would say, well, if he was lying why didn't the president point out what he was saying that was inaccurate? he didn't do it. mitt romney, again, has been very clear where he stands. this just shows this is a campaign...
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in the vital state of ohio mitt romney has surged 49% to mr. romney's 50. a virtual dead heat there as well. a few days ago had the president up big in ohio. in crucial virginia romney leads 49, 48, another tie in the margin of error. with the country still talking about mitt romney's victory the democratic party has decided to go into full attack mode. the strategy seems to be very simple. call mitt romney a liar. >> plenty of people have pointed out what a liar mitt romney is and was last night. i mean if he was talking -- if he was speaking last night, he was lying. >> look, mitt romney had a good night but, you know, even, you know, a blind squirrel gets a nut every now and then. one good night is not going to erase a year of mitt romney's extreme positions. >> bill: that was pretty vicious, was it not? does the dnc really believe that kind of rhetoric will help the president? does it believe independent voters respond positively to that? i don't think they will. in the realm of politics often misleading statements. "time" magazine story this week runs
in the vital state of ohio mitt romney has surged 49% to mr. romney's 50. a virtual dead heat there as well. a few days ago had the president up big in ohio. in crucial virginia romney leads 49, 48, another tie in the margin of error. with the country still talking about mitt romney's victory the democratic party has decided to go into full attack mode. the strategy seems to be very simple. call mitt romney a liar. >> plenty of people have pointed out what a liar mitt romney is and was...
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romney and mr. ryan. >> romney, ryan, romney, ryan. >> so that people don't get tired of her. >> when you go after my man -- >> stop it, this is hard. you want to try, it get in the ring. >> was i a little strong? >> never apologize for america. >> people will call my awful things every day. there are going to be bumps in the road. >> what's with the wily coyote nuclear bomb? >> 90 minute attack ad. >> president is obviously a very eloquent and gifted speaker. >> i would have, bam. >> i have neve been in a presidential debate like this. >> let's get right to our panel now. we're joined by democratic strategist julian epstein, michelle cottle, washington correspondent for "newsweek" and the daily beast, and michael krouly who is "time's" washington bureau sheaf. allow me to read to you if i may part of a statement from beth myers. she says the president is a universally acclaimed public speaker. it's clear he will use his ample rhetorical gifts and debating experience to one end, attacking mitt romne
romney and mr. ryan. >> romney, ryan, romney, ryan. >> so that people don't get tired of her. >> when you go after my man -- >> stop it, this is hard. you want to try, it get in the ring. >> was i a little strong? >> never apologize for america. >> people will call my awful things every day. there are going to be bumps in the road. >> what's with the wily coyote nuclear bomb? >> 90 minute attack ad. >> president is obviously a very...
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romney are statistically tied there. according to our latest poll, mr. obama leads governor romney 47% to 46. the president has dropped two points since september. governor romney has gained one. >>> and with its ten media markets and diverse population, florida's a complicated and pricey state. joining us with more is mark ka pewto, political writer for "the miami herald," and back with us is anne kornblut from "the washington post." thanks to both of you. >> thank. >> mark, your newspaper also reported the race between president obama and mitt romney is at a virtual tie. here is how florida voted back in 2008. democrats won in the central and southern urban centers. republicans in the rural north and central. will the 2012 map look the same? >> oh, pretty much so. that's what the polling is showing currently. you know, southeast florida is rather liberal. florida's kind of an upsidedown state. the farther north you go, the deeper in the south you are. so the republican candidate does well in the north of florida and the democratic candidate generally d
romney are statistically tied there. according to our latest poll, mr. obama leads governor romney 47% to 46. the president has dropped two points since september. governor romney has gained one. >>> and with its ten media markets and diverse population, florida's a complicated and pricey state. joining us with more is mark ka pewto, political writer for "the miami herald," and back with us is anne kornblut from "the washington post." thanks to both of you. >>...
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romney's way of presenting himself. he was like an actor who came on playing a bigger role than he normally does, like a big guy, "master and commander" russell crowe. he grew when he came on stage, and he stayed in character as if he wanted to do a couple more hours of it. so prepping him -- and i hadn't seen that mitt romney before. that guy has not been out there. what happened with him? how did he get so ready for that thing? >> i think he and the campaign totally understood what the stakes were, and they prepared and they prepared a lot. i have watched mitt romney over the years, and he has steadily improved, and, you know, people like stuart stevens and beth myers took a lot of heat over the last couple months about the campaign, but those -- i have worked with stuart before in many campaigns, and he's a debate preparation fanatic, and they understood that this would be an opportunity to shift the gears, to reframe the race, and one guy showed up and one guy prepared, and it showed. it really did. you know, a lot
romney's way of presenting himself. he was like an actor who came on playing a bigger role than he normally does, like a big guy, "master and commander" russell crowe. he grew when he came on stage, and he stayed in character as if he wanted to do a couple more hours of it. so prepping him -- and i hadn't seen that mitt romney before. that guy has not been out there. what happened with him? how did he get so ready for that thing? >> i think he and the campaign totally understood...
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romney and the moderator jim lehrer. this picture made the front page of the "new york times" today. so that is pretty cool. technicians were testing the debate hull during the stand-in and everything is working fine. and you can see the debate right here on cbs 5 starting at 6:00 tonight. >>> a tv news anchor stands up to bullying. >> still to come what she considers the learning moment after an email calls attention to her weight. >> but first, a rough day for hewlett-packard on wall street. when the silicon valley giant can expect a turnaround. >>> hi, i'm meteorologist lawrence karnow in the cbs 5 weather center. we have cooler temperatures on the way, fog not too far away. we'll talk about that coming up. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, in to turn the struggling tech company around. >>> hewlett-packard's ceo meg whitman expects earnings to fall in 2013 as she works to turn the struggling tech company around. she delivered the disappointing report to analysts and invests in san francisco today. hp is coming off its worst quarter ev
romney and the moderator jim lehrer. this picture made the front page of the "new york times" today. so that is pretty cool. technicians were testing the debate hull during the stand-in and everything is working fine. and you can see the debate right here on cbs 5 starting at 6:00 tonight. >>> a tv news anchor stands up to bullying. >> still to come what she considers the learning moment after an email calls attention to her weight. >> but first, a rough day for...
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we may dip in and listen to mr. romney during this hour but you can watch the entire event by logging on to cnn.com. >>> a legal system nightmare. thousands of cases may have been jeopardized by a lab worker who allegedly tampered with evidence. that story is next. the wheels of progress. seems they haven't been moving much lately. but things are starting to turn around because of business people like you. and regions is here to help. with the experience and service to keep things rolling. from business loans to cash management, we want to be your partner moving forward. so switch to regions. and let's get going. together. his morning starts with arthritis pain. and two pills. afternoon's overhaul starts with more pain. more pills. triple checking hydraulics. the evening brings more pain. so, back to more pills. almost done, when... hang on. stan's doctor recommended aleve. it can keep pain away all day with fewer pills than tylenol. this is rudy. who switched to aleve. and two pills for a day free of pain. ♪ [ fe
we may dip in and listen to mr. romney during this hour but you can watch the entire event by logging on to cnn.com. >>> a legal system nightmare. thousands of cases may have been jeopardized by a lab worker who allegedly tampered with evidence. that story is next. the wheels of progress. seems they haven't been moving much lately. but things are starting to turn around because of business people like you. and regions is here to help. with the experience and service to keep things...
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the president and mr. romney said to face often less than one week for the first presidential debate. both campaigns are downplaying the candid wiping of their opponents. how will these low expectations play out? with more on this, joined by ed rollins, republican strategist top boxes contributor. likewise, doing great, especially looking forward to this conversation. what is the strategy? >> you cannot play down the debate. the biggest thing left in his campaign. if you don't do well it does not matter whether you said you're not going to do well. you discord against. traditionally presidents don't do as well in debates. nobody basically stands up and makes points back-and-forth. sometimes they're hard to get going. this president is a good debater. my sense is he will be on his best. romney obviously became a very good debater. style versus substance. charismatic, a great debater. romney, livermore. also very strong in a primary debate, as you just alluded to, especially against gingrich. >> i'm sure ful
the president and mr. romney said to face often less than one week for the first presidential debate. both campaigns are downplaying the candid wiping of their opponents. how will these low expectations play out? with more on this, joined by ed rollins, republican strategist top boxes contributor. likewise, doing great, especially looking forward to this conversation. what is the strategy? >> you cannot play down the debate. the biggest thing left in his campaign. if you don't do well it...
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here's what mr. romney had said. >> i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i'm going to stop other things. i like pbs. i love big bird. i actually like you, too. but i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for. >> it prompted a plurry of internet activity supporting big bird and the public broadcasting system. what's the truth? could big bird going bye bye? joining us now a reporter from the christian science monitor. good morning. >> good morning. >> are big bird and pbs really in any danger here? >> i don't think big bird's had things this good in awhile. he's huge on twitter now. his twitter presence increased like 800,000%. and the thing about big bird and "sesame street," they have so much outside funding that it's not like "sesame street" is going to disappear. pbs, though, that subsidy, it's a sizeable chunk of their budget. it would be a big blow. >> about how much? do you have a perspective on how much that is? how much the government chips in? >> it fluctuates year to year. it's about 10 to 15%. in 2011 a
here's what mr. romney had said. >> i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i'm going to stop other things. i like pbs. i love big bird. i actually like you, too. but i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for. >> it prompted a plurry of internet activity supporting big bird and the public broadcasting system. what's the truth? could big bird going bye bye? joining us now a reporter from the christian science monitor. good...
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for mr. romney 12 million just since the debate. that is a vast amount of on line fund raise there is concern in the republican party that the big donor are making their money for the house and senate because mr. mitt romney had a tough go and well, in the wake of the debate uptake in big dollar donations for the romney campaign suggest they aleviated. there is a major phone bank and calling all over the country that type of grass roots is very, very important as we are 31 days from the election . it is electric. people were wait traffic was thick around that venu. i want to explain to everybody. we are monitor what the government is saying. he is getting cheers about remarks of repealing obama care. carl is on the job . campaign carl, we don't call him that for nothing. moving on now . and sticking with the economy. gas prices reaching an all-time high in one state. that plays in to the economy especially where people are seeing upards to five dollars a gallonon and a serve of deadly attacks. they are known as green on blue attacki
for mr. romney 12 million just since the debate. that is a vast amount of on line fund raise there is concern in the republican party that the big donor are making their money for the house and senate because mr. mitt romney had a tough go and well, in the wake of the debate uptake in big dollar donations for the romney campaign suggest they aleviated. there is a major phone bank and calling all over the country that type of grass roots is very, very important as we are 31 days from the...
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mrs. romney, that's not helping. you better finish the thought. >> i have all the confidence in the world in his ability, in his decisiveness, in his leadership skills, in his understanding of the economy, in his understanding of what's missing right now in the economy, you know, the pieces that are missing to get this jump started. so for me i think it would be the emotional part of it. >> right. he's capable, decisive, and emotionally troubled? well, that is an october surprise. let's get right to our panel this afternoon. with us from washington, msnbc political analyst karen finney, who is a democratic strategist. also julian epstein, who is a democratic strategist, and here in new york msnbc political analyst professor michael eric dyson. professor dyson, mitt romney's wife says she's concerned about his mental health. paul ryan says he's inarticulate. if he can't think straight and he can't speak properly, is mitt romney george bush in disguise? >> i'll tell what you. i want to give you the baseline, i don't ha
mrs. romney, that's not helping. you better finish the thought. >> i have all the confidence in the world in his ability, in his decisiveness, in his leadership skills, in his understanding of the economy, in his understanding of what's missing right now in the economy, you know, the pieces that are missing to get this jump started. so for me i think it would be the emotional part of it. >> right. he's capable, decisive, and emotionally troubled? well, that is an october surprise....